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0:03: So today we have Mira Rodriguez on our show, and Myra worked at Planned Parenthood for 17 years, managed 3 clinics, and even was once named Employee of the Year.
0:15: But today, Myra is now a pro-life advocate who blew the whistle on Planned Parenthood years ago.
0:21: So Myra, we’re so thrilled to have you today.
0:24: Let’s dive right in.
0:25: Thank you so much for being here.
0:27: Could you tell our listeners your story?
0:29: Why are you pro-life?
0:30: , well, thank you so much for having me.
0:33: First of all, it’s quite an honor to be recording this and spread my message, so.
0:39: You know, the difference between a lot of the pro-life people on the sidewalk, unlike many of the, most people won’t understand that the majority of people on the sidewalk, we have been on the other side, right?
0:50: They either had abortions or we parti participated on abortions, right?
0:56: So, As personally myself, I would have never had an abortion.
1:01: I have never had an abortion, so I never saw abortion as something for me.
1:05: So you could say I was pro-life for myself and my children, right?
1:08: But I didn’t care if other women killed their babies.
1:11: I didn’t care if other women went through an abortion using the excuse of who am I.
1:15: to judge them, right?
1:17: So you, I, I was what you could call a pro-choice person, right?
1:21: Given a choice, which in fact it just meant pro-abortion, right?
1:26: Let them have an abortion if they want one, even though I never thought abortion was OK for me to kill my children, right?
1:34: And but working for Planned Parenthood for many, many years, promoting the idea of the abortion and the idea that abortion is OK for women.
1:43: Actually, I like to say that besides God, Planned Parenthood made me pro-life.
1:49: Yeah, so I am pro-life because Planned Parents showed me the true colors, show me what it really means to be pro-abortion when I became the director of the abortion facility.
2:00: Wow, that’s incredible.
2:02: Can you tell us more about what what was it about Planned Parenthood that opened your eyes to the truth about the abortion industry?
2:10: Can you tell us more about your experience there?
2:13: Yeah, yeah, but before I dive into that, let me just tell you how I got there, right?
2:17: Because most people are, how do you get to work for Planned Parenthood and work for 17 years, and all of a sudden open your eyes, right?
2:24: That a lot of people are confused about that on my story.
2:27: So I grew up in Mexico City, moved to this beautiful country 30 years ago.
2:32: My desire, my passion was to help women, right?
2:36: I remember growing up in Mexico City wanting to be Be a doctor, right?
2:42: So a women’s doctor.
2:43: So when I came to this country, obviously it’s a bit hard to be a doctor when you’re an immigrant, right?
2:48: I had a tourist visa and you can really go to university with a tourist visa.
2:53: So my friend worked for Planned Parenthood and they help women.
2:57: I didn’t know much about them, but they help women, and they needed people who speak Spanish.
3:02: I spoke Spanish, so I was like, jackpot, right?
3:05: My dream.
3:06: I get to help women.
3:07: I To help in my language, in my community, and I started working for them.
3:12: For 16 years.
3:13: I worked on the side of Planned Parenthood that promotes birth control, well woman exams, STD testing, the side that most people today, even some pro-life people say, well, that side of Planned Parenthood is good, right?
3:27: And that’s what I defended for many years.
3:29: Then I became the center director of the biggest facility in Arizona at the end of 2016.
3:35: And my eyes got opened very quickly, I will say.
3:38: I only lasted 7 months as the center director, because when I started seeing the true and the reality of the abortion industry, what do I mean by that?
3:48: The way they treat women, the corruption behind it, the way they do business, it is a business to them, right?
3:57: The way they handle employees that are on the abortion facility, the way the abortionist act, I always like to say they think they’re God, right?
4:07: but then what happens to women during and after the abortion?
4:12: Now, Myra, you were at one point named Employee of the Year by Planned Parenthood, right?
4:18: How did you go from being named Employee of the Year to then leaving Planned Parenthood, and now you speak out against Planned Parenthood?
4:27: So I, I became the enemy of the year, right?
4:30: So, I was really good at my job.
4:34: I escalated through the ranch of Planned Parenthood, right?
4:37: I was a medical assistant first, and then I became a team leader, then I became the training coordinator for the entire state.
4:46: Then I became the center director for Title 10 centers, I At one point I was managing three centers, right, which it was at the end of 2016.
4:56: They gave me the Employee of the Year award because I had done such an amazing job for them, right?
5:01: And I will literally fight for them through with anyone, right?
5:05: I will argue that Planned Parenthood was this very humane place that helps women, right, and that what we do is necessary for the world to keep going, right?
5:15: And so at one point, they gave me this Employee of the Year award because I’ve been so good at my job and going through the range and, and just growing up, you know, empowering myself as a woman, and then they, with that award came the promotion of becoming the director of the biggest facility of abortions in Arizona.
5:38: And that’s when I started seeing when I What I’ve been complaining about, and that led me to get fired in 2017, and that’s how I became their enemy.
5:50: So all I did was call out what was wrong at my center.
5:55: If you ask me, was I expecting them firing me over that?
5:59: No.
6:00: You know, I honestly thought I was going to get another employee of the Year award, or being such a good employee.
6:06: Right, you think so.
6:07: And what was it that you specifically called them out on?
6:11: Well, I started complaining about the complications, right?
6:16: like many people, I was told that abortion was safe.
6:20: I told women that, right?
6:21: For many years when women stepped into our center for a pregnancy test.
6:26: Now remember, the majority of women going to a Planned Parenthood, they’re there for a pregnancy test because they want an abortion.
6:33: Hardly any of the women that walk into Planned Parenthood are planning to continue their pregnancy, right?
6:38: They don’t go to Planned Parenthood if they’re planning to continue pregnancy.
6:41: They go there because Planned Parenthood knows that they want to discontinue their pregnancy and they’re counting on that.
6:48: So, When we give out the results, right?
6:52: And, and I know that they wanted an abortion, then you go through the speech of the abortion, you know, abortion is safe, you know, these rare things ever happen.
7:02: women are very safe, you know, only this many get perforated.
7:07: Only these many get an infection, only this many, but that rarely happens in our centers, right?
7:14: And that’s the speech you give to women when you sell them the idea of abortion.
7:19: So then I enter as a director, and what am I seeing that perforations are done daily.
7:25: This is not a once in a blue moon thing.
7:27: This is not a 30% thing.
7:29: This is a daily a woman leaves the center perforated.
7:33: Most of the time, the abortionists didn’t even know they’re perforated that woman.
7:38: And what it’s a perforation?
7:39: It’s when they go inside the uros and then with the instrument by accident, their For it, right?
7:47: It’s very easy, right?
7:48: Our, our system is very delicate.
7:51: It’s strong because it can stretch as big as a huge balloon for 9 months, but then it’s very delicate too, and the instruments they use are very sharp.
8:00: And then let’s keep in mind they’re not even looking to what they’re doing.
8:03: It’s a blended procedure.
8:05: They can’t see inside, even with a guided ultrasound, they cannot see what they’re doing, right?
8:12: So I call out the perforations.
8:14: I call out they, they wouldn’t do the reporting that was necessary and required by law.
8:19: The law in the state of Arizona requires them to report any complication done in the room, and that didn’t happen, right?
8:27: I, I call out that the abortion is constantly was misleading the staff.
8:32: Of breaking rules and regulations, Arizona had, legislation passed that the doctor, the abortionist with the staff have to check that every part of the baby was accounted for the head, the legs, the torso, the arms, and he constantly will pre-sign that affidavit.
8:53: Everyone will pre-sign their affidavit so they can move fast, and then he will not even go into the room to check that everything was there, right?
9:01: So I complained of all this stuff happening in our center and that the abortionists didn’t care and on top of it that he was the medical director.
9:11: That means He got to oversee every other abortion.
9:15: He got to decide who reports what, when does that get reported.
9:20: He got to lock the charts and add the complications at whatever he wanted to.
9:26: So I called all those things out and believe it or not, my employer didn’t like that.
9:31: They actually did not like that I was calling out the truth.
9:36: Yeah, and you would have thought that they would have said, Wow, Myra, thank you so much for bringing these very terrible things to our attention.
9:44: We’re going to work with you to make sure that the women were taken care of, taken care of, are given the most quality care, but instead, what did they do?
9:54: They fired you, right?
9:56: Can you, can you tell us more about that experience?
9:59: You know, this log and care.
10:01: No matter what, I really thought it applied here.
10:04: I’m like, you know, I’m going to bring this up.
10:07: The staff keep telling me, Maya, don’t complain about him.
10:10: People get fired.
10:11: Don’t complain.
10:12: Don’t say anything about the abortionist like, don’t go there, you know, like you can say anything else, but don’t touch the abortionist because people get fired.
10:20: And I was like, I’m not going to stay quiet.
10:22: No, you’ll see.
10:23: No, because this is wrong, right?
10:26: And then when you start talking to staff from like other locations, he was the same abortionist from Tucson.
10:31: Then you start hearing that this has been going on for many years.
10:35: He’s now the only abortionist.
10:37: Like this is what’s happening in the centers, right?
10:41: So, Instead of them saying like, thank you, Maya, because we care for women no matter what, like our slogan says, it was like, Maya, just do your job, don’t worry about it, we’ll take care of it.
10:53: And Maya, just do your job, don’t worry about it, we’ll take care of it, and they take care of it never happened, right?
11:00: Until one day, they called me into the headquarters office and they’re like, oh Myra, last Friday while you were gone, we find narcotics in your desk, you’re fired.
11:09: And I was like, So last Friday when I was not even there, you find narcotics in my desk.
11:14: The narcotics use on women to put them to sleep before their surgery or their surgical procedure, right?
11:23: So I was like, but I wasn’t even there.
11:25: And I knew it was a setup.
11:27: I knew they were blaming me for something that’s serious, thinking that if they were nice to me not to report me or do anything legally, then I should just stay quiet.
11:38: And you were doing exactly what you should have done because you, from the very beginning of taking this job, your your goal was to help women and you probably said to yourself, I have to speak out on behalf of these women who are not being given the quality care.
11:56: That they deserve, and then what does Planned Parenthood do?
11:59: They come back and say, Shh, be quiet.
12:02: Don’t don’t talk about that.
12:03: And then they end up firing you.
12:05: So not only was Planned Parenthood not caring about all of the thousands of women of their patients.
12:12: They weren’t caring for you either.
12:15: One of their top directors who had just been given Employee of the Year, and I think you experienced what a lot of women experience, which is Planned Parenthood’s disrespect for women.
12:28: And you actually went on to sue them, didn’t you, for wrongful termination?
12:33: Can you tell us more about that?
12:35: Yes, I did, and you’re right.
12:38: what I thought was, so there was a case of a 19 year old where he actually forgot the head of the 14-week baby, right?
12:46: And the staff member came to my office, and she was really concerned.
12:49: Now I’m talking about someone just a medical assistant, no other medical background that going through a certification for 9 months to become a medical assistant.
12:59: So she goes into my office, she looked very worried.
13:02: Myra, I’m very worried.
13:03: He says he’s done, he’s leaving, and we can find the head of the 14 week baby.
13:08: I go back, we argue, he was refusing to go back in the room.
13:12: He had already inserted an IUD on the womb on the young 19 year old.
13:17: The nineteen-year-old was still kind of out of it, and finally after arguing, they do another ultrasound, they find the head above the IUD, right?
13:26: He had already inserted an IUD so I called my supervisor and I said that’s it.
13:32: So I knew this was a setup.
13:33: I knew where they blamed me for, and I I knew I had to do something about it, you know, I remember that someone asked me, someone from a pregnancy center, asked me, so why would you want to do this?
13:44: And I said, because I don’t think I can live with myself if I don’t try to do something to prove that what I’m saying it’s true.
13:51: So with the help of any people in Arizona, I found a lawyer, Tim Casey, and he helped me out with my case.
13:58: Yeah, you can just imagine the scene in his office.
14:01: He I tell him this Mexican telenovela, right, a soap opera about my story, and he was like, I believe you, let’s get on it, you know, and then we sued Planned Parenthood for wrongful termination.
14:13: , in 2017, 2019, by the grace and mercy of God, we beat them, you know, against a lot because if you ever hear them people are like, you can’t beat Planned Parenthood.
14:24: They’re unbeatable.
14:24: They get away with everything.
14:26: I mean, of course they get away with murder, literally, right?
14:29: They get away with misusing our funds as they please and.
14:33: No one does anything, and this has been going on for years and years and years.
14:38: Even when we have been able to defund them a little bit like back in 2016, it hasn’t been quite the whole pie, right?
14:45: Like, so a lot of people were like, you’ll never beat them, you know, like, I don’t think you’ll win.
14:50: It’s a good story, but that’s a really high up.
14:54: But we did, you know, we won.
14:57: the members of the jury, they all sided with me unanimously that Plumpard had the wrong, and they did it to keep me quiet.
15:05: So I won my case in 2019.
15:08: Wow.
15:08: Well, thank you, Mya for being one of the people who is brave enough to stand up to them, because you’re exactly right.
15:16: Planned Parenthood is a giant.
15:18: They are the biggest abortion business in the United States, and it’s not and it’s not a small thing to stand up and to go against them.
15:28: And their response consistently to those who do oppose them is one of hatred.
15:35: And they get angry.
15:37: I chatted with David Daleiden, the undercover journalist who discovered that Planned Parenthood was illegally selling baby body parts and It’s just crazy to hear about the lengths that Planned Parenthood will go to keep their dark secrets hidden.
15:54: So thank you for being one of the ones who was willing to bring those things to light because it’s a scary thing to do.
16:00: , and I’d love to shift gears and just talk to you a little bit more about abortion and how it harms women.
16:08: Can you tell our listeners a little bit more in your experience after working with Planned Parenthood for 17 years, what effects have you seen on women that abortion causes?
16:22: Well, You know, for many years, they told me that abortion was safe, you know, and when I heard them.
16:30: And then I had to hear them say that.
16:33: You know, that if women felt sad, it was more to do with their hormones, right?
16:38: That it wasn’t that they were feeling guilty, that it, it was more that their hormones are on balance, right?
16:45: I heard them say that to women in their recovery room when they were crying.
16:49: It’s OK to feel sad.
16:51: You just feel sad, but it’s just your hormones and because you’re in pain, right?
16:54: It will go away, you’ll see, right?
16:57: Especially if they promoted for them to take.
16:59: Pills right after they leave, right?
17:01: Knowing that those pills will fail again, right?
17:04: So, you know, but once you start on your birth control, the hormones will help you regulate and you’re gonna start feeling better, right?
17:11: So you’re like, OK, what’s going on here, right?
17:14: So, for many years, what I saw in that center was devastation, literally, right?
17:20: Women come into the Center kind of like hopeful, right?
17:23: Hopeful that this will be it.
17:25: They told me in 2 hours I will be going home and nothing ever happened, right?
17:29: They told me that I will take a pill and just bleed like a period.
17:33: It’s like Tylenol and nothing will happen, right?
17:36: I had to take phone calls in the middle of the night of patients saying like, so you all told me it was a blood clot.
17:43: I’m seeing a baby.
17:45: What do you want me to do with it?
17:47: throw it in the toilet and flush it down and don’t look.
17:50: You know, I was trained to do that and tell women that.
17:53: Can you imagine the trauma of that woman seeing that baby?
17:57: I mean, I had nightmares of the baby pieces of seeing in that room.
18:01: I can’t even imagine when it’s your own child and you have to flush it down the toilet and I have to tell you to do that, or the phone calls of the women saying like, you told me it was going to be like a period.
18:12: I think I’m dying.
18:13: The pain is excruciating and I’m bleeding so much, and I was trying to tell them, put your Feet up with a heating pad, take ibuprofen, call me in the morning.
18:22: You’re OK, right?
18:24: Always undermining their pain, undermining their sadness, right?
18:29: Like I told you, hearing the nurses in the recovery room tell women, you’re feeling sad because it’s your hormones.
18:35: Don’t feel guilty.
18:36: It’s OK.
18:37: It’s not guilt, it’s hormones.
18:39: You know, that sadness will go away.
18:41: You know, when in reality, abortion is destroying women, right?
18:46: Today, now.
18:47: I have spoken to many women who had abortions, right, because obviously when I was there, I talked to them right in there and then they left, and I don’t think they’ll come back to thank me, not once.
18:58: I can tell a woman came back to my center and said, Thank you, Maya, for having my abortion here.
19:03: Thank you, Maya for whatever you guys did not want, right?
19:06: They were always angry and they left sad and angry, right?
19:10: And so it’s not like women returned to the abortion facility to thank the staff, right?
19:15: So we don’t see them afterwards, right?
19:18: So then now I get to see women who had had abortions, and I actually have met women who had abortions in the center.
19:24: I directed that says, you know, I’m, I’m, I’m glad you’re speaking up now.
19:29: I was one of those clients there and my life was destroyed by my choice, right?
19:35: And and I mean, it feels great to be able to apologize to them for all the lies that you fed them that they told you that it was OK, you know, but so and then the perforations, you know, I think about how many women that left my center perforated didn’t even know, and now they have scars on their ears.
19:53: They don’t even know that’s the reason why they can’t get pregnant again or why they have miscarriages or why they have so many issues during their pregnancies, right?
20:02: So those are all the things that I have seen, right?
20:07: I have seen the destruction that abortion does to women.
20:09: So how could you not be pro-life after actually witnessing what abortion does to women, and obviously what abortion does to the unborn, you know, it’s not as easy as it looks piling up those baby pieces in ziploc bags and then signing your name to the waste management people and say, hey, You have my permission to get these babies and throw them in the trash to be cremated with everything else, you know, that’s not easy.
20:35: I always tell people like it’s comparing yourself to those cartel saras, you know, those cartel killers, now that you’re piling up bodies, you know, then most people don’t think they matter because they don’t have a voice.
20:48: Wow, I think that point you brought up that after your 17 years working at Planned Parenthood, you never had one client come back and say thank you.
20:58: I think that’s such a powerful point that gets to how the behavior that Planned Parenthood has towards women is actually very demeaning.
21:09: And it actually is not respectful and it’s not empowering, even though that’s the messaging that they use, you know, they make it seem like abortion is abortion is health care.
21:21: Abortion is necessary for women to be brave and to be empowered.
21:27: I would love to hear your reaction to that type of messaging that Planned Parenthood uses, and I know you’ve already touched on this, but what would you say to Planned Parenthood now?
21:38: After you see the truth.
21:41: Yeah, please stop lying to women.
21:43: Stop, stop the lies.
21:45: Stop profiting on women’s bodies and babies, you know, stop the profit, you know, and that’s what I would like for people to understand and see.
21:54: I always tell people follow the money, you know, for an organization, a nonprofit organization like they call themselves, their books don’t look like a nonprofit organization, right?
22:05: So it’s like, what’s going on here?
22:07: Why can people Open their eyes to what’s happening in the reality of the industry, especially Planned Parenthood.
22:13: You mentioned they’re the biggest abortion provider in the United States.
22:16: They’re the biggest abortion providers, promoters globally, right?
22:21: And that’s why like I took my story outside of the United States and I traveled globally because they are everywhere.
22:28: They have more affiliates than McDonald’s in the world, you know, they take our tax money to help pay.
22:34: For babies in poor countries, enough.
22:38: They have to stop telling women that they need to kill their babies.
22:41: I didn’t have to kill my babies to work for them and direct 3 centers, so women should not have to kill their babies.
22:49: There’s more for women in this world than abortion, and abortion, it has not fixed anything.
22:55: I mean, look at us, none of the issues they say abortion helps has been fixed.
23:01: Poverty is still, like we still have a lot of people that are poor, right?
23:05: We still have women abused.
23:07: It certainly does not help rape victims or has helped bring rape down, so none of the excuses they have done for abortion has helped our society today, but the opposite.
23:17: I think we now have more hurt and broken women.
23:20: Women that need to get beyond alcohol or drug use, become addictive to something because of that abortion.
23:28: And by now, Planned Parents needs to get accountable for their actions, what they have done with our tax money and what they have done to our society.
23:36: It is about time we bring them to literally make them accountable.
23:42: Wow, that was a powerful answer.
23:44: Thank you so much for that.
23:45: And we’ve talked a lot about just the horrors that go on at Planned Parenthood and just how they do not provide the quality medical care that they claim to.
23:56: So what would, what would you say to women who might be scared and don’t know where to turn now?
24:02: They, they might be women who have been hearing these things in the news about Planned Parenthoods and Now they don’t know where to go get the quality medical care that they used to think they could get out of Planned Parenthood.
24:15: Where would you recommend that they go?
24:17: Yeah, so, well, first of all, I will tell them that they have heard of Planned Parenthood doing all these wrongful things.
24:24: Finally, now, right, we’re hearing it, right, even though for decades many employees have called out and say that, but if they think any other abortionists will be better than Planned Parenthood, no, this is the abortion industry.
24:36: It’s not only Planned Parenthood, it is the way the abortion industry cooperates, collaborates and works.
24:42: So if you are in that situation.
24:45: And where you’re scared, trust me, I know you’re scared, but we have many other places that can help you, and keeping your baby and in this beautiful country, being able to give it up for adoption, it is a choice for you.
24:59: So and that’s by far a better choice than you killing your baby and carrying that guilt and that trauma for the rest of your life.
25:07: And for the people who still think that Planned Parenthood does more good things besides.
25:12: Abortion is not true.
25:14: There’s many other providers that provide better care, better service than what Planned Parenthood can do for women, because to Planned Parenthood, abortion is what they, it matters.
25:24: Abortion is their business, and that’s where they put everything on.
25:28: So please look for other providers.
25:31: There’s many providers that will actually guide you properly to what you need, especially because you don’t need abortion.
25:38: That’s what I will tell them.
25:41: And what would your message be for women who have already been misled by Planned Parenthood, who have already gone and maybe gotten care that was demeaning to them or was harmful to them?
25:54: Would, would you have any words for those types of women?
25:57: Yeah, so I took Lampar to court because of you, of you, the women that have been hurt by abortion, because I know how hard it is for them to take them to court.
26:08: I know that when they sign that patient authorization, they literally sign their life away to them.
26:14: So to them.
26:15: I, that’s what I did what I did.
26:18: I didn’t do it, you know, I mean, it’s great to get on podcasts.
26:20: It’s great to be called to speak and tell my story, but the reality is I did it for those women that hurt on abortion.
26:27: So then hopefully one day my case will be helpful to many of the lawsuits from women that have been hurt by abortion, but also know that there’s healing.
26:38: I know that because I have sick healing.
26:40: Myself, because carrying that guilt of helping women go through that and helping them destroy their lives and kill their babies is something we need to work on and knowing that there is forgiveness for the people that have done wrong, and God forgives us all, so please seek for help.
26:57: Please find the help for healing and know that God forgives you and you have to forgive yourself.
27:05: Wow.
27:05: Well, thank you so much for joining our podcast today, Maya.
27:09: It has just been such a treat to get to listen to your firsthand account of what you experienced with Planned Parenthood, and it’s just so refreshing to hear your honesty and to hear your bravery.
27:21: So thank you so much for what you have done by standing up to the abortion giant, and thank you for your work that you continue to do for the pro-life movement.
27:30: We so much appreciate your time and we so much appreciate your story and that You were so willing to speak out for women that at so many points feel like they don’t have a voice.
27:41: So thank you again, Bra, for joining us.
27:43: So grateful for you.
27:45: Thank you so much for having me.
27:47: What a pleasure.
27:48: Thank you.

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